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Friendship in Leadership

Co-founders are a known relationship in the realm of start-ups and institution-building. But less studied is the dynamic of friendship between those who are building something that intends to have cultural impact and last beyond a generation. Today’s episode digs in to that deeper, less transactional realm, as the co-founders of Cardus, Michael Van Pelt and Ray Pennings, reflect on their 20+ years of friendship while leading.

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